Thursday, September 30, 2010

tie or tide

T-rav and I are in the middle of a word debate that probably doesn't have a right or wrong answer but is fun to talk about just the same. He noticed this posted on my facebook status: "hungry and far from the kitchen with only 3 small cookies to tie me over."

He thought it was strange that I said tie me over because he has always heard/said tide me over. When he mentioned the difference, I instantly went into ridicule mode. TIDE me over? What is that supposed to mean? But then I started thinking about it and tie doesn't really sound all that much better...and I suppose I had heard tide now and then...so we started doing some google research (if only I had access to the OED, I'd try that too). We found that:
  • Tie me over has 10,300,000 hits while tide me over has 2,710,000 hits (not that this is scientific or proves anything, but ole' Dr. Robertson used it in every class to explain such and such an idea).
  • There are loads of sites that mock the use of tie and support the use of tide.
  • Many sites agree that tie me over is a colloquialism and therefore wrong (which I have a problem with).
One British site says: ...I say that the true form is to tide one over. In some slight defence of to tie one over, it is becoming more common, but it is a folk etymology (read “error” if you prefer) that has grown up because the word tide here seems to make no sense.

The idea is that of the swelling tide, which will carry you over some obstacle, with the implication that it won’t require effort on your part. It may be that it’s a deliberate echo of Brutus’s comment, in Julius Caesar: “There is a Tide in the affairs of men, Which taken at the Flood, leads on to Fortune”, or it may at least be taken from the same idea of a ship, say, waiting for the tide to rise and carry it over the bar into a harbour.

Now I'm not sure I buy the part about a swelling tide...but he makes an interesting point. So what do you say? And I'm wondering if this is regional or age-related or random or some other variable. Post a comment and answer the survey (and send others my way. I need a bigger sample group!), please!

17 comments:

Zillah said...

tide. absolutely tide.

Unknown said...

Roll Tide.

amy said...

DC native casting an emphatic vote for tide.

Receli said...

I say tide... and I have an OED... so you can borrow it. :)

M said...

I would have said tide.

It was fun to learn the idea of the swelling tide. I never had thought too hard about the phrase.

Anonymous said...

Definately after thinking about what I say, it is tie. Must be a NY thing.

Rachsticle said...

It's tide.

ego non said...

Tide.

Marlo said...

Tide. I have never even heard someone say tie. Neither has Jamieson. We are from Iowa and California....in case you forgot.

ixoj said...

I'm starting to wonder if this is just me, my family, and a handful of other renegades.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to switch to tide!

Kristi said...

Uh...tie DEFINITELY....I've NEVER heard ANYONE say TIDE me over...thats weird....

Katherine Griffin said...

Cn agrees, it is tide. Tie me over? Silly.

Anonymous said...

Fautie says tide me over. And I see my children never paid attention to me because I always say tide. And I must not listen to my wife because she says it is tie and I always thought she said tide.

Anonymous said...

I say Tide. I said it to myself several times, yup, Tide

Melarie Wheat said...

I always say tie, i don't think I've ever heard tied, but judging by the responses here that may just be me not hearing right and assuming they are saying tie. BTW, I'm from Utah.

Anonymous said...

It's tide. Has been since the 14th century. Tie is a lazy Americanism. If you know the word tide, as in rising and falling water, it makes sense that sailors would talk about using the tide to get over an obstacle. Tie makes no sense. I'm going to tie myself up to get over something?

ixoj said...

Actually, Laura, I believe it has nothing to do with being a lazy Americanism and everything to do with natural language progression.